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Quote Lee_190 Replybullet Topic: Gaming problem
    Posted: 15/Apr/2012 at 11:58
I purchased a cyberpower pc a few months back now,I was receiving lag in games which in theory I should of been able to play,I decided to upgrade the gpu from a power colour 6850 to a sapphire 7870. I'm still getting the same problems,it seems to be in certain games,for instance i can play bf3 with ultra textures and maintain 60fps yet I try to play skyrim or amnesia and i get less fps than bf3? :/ I will post my specs below,please note the psu was upgraded to a 850w I'd appreciate your help.

Ultra Scylla SE (NO MONITOR)
ULTRA_SCYLLASEZ, http://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/system/Ultra_SCYLLA_SE/
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CAS: CoolerMaster HAF 912 Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ Adjustable HDD Cage (Black Color)
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CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE. (BLACK COLOR)
CD2: NONE
COOL: NONE
CPU: AMD FX-6100 3.30 GHz Six-Core AM3+ CPU 6MB L2 Cache & Turbo Core Technology
CS_FAN: Default Case Fan
DONGLES: NONE
EXPAN: NONE
FA_HDD: None
FAN: Asetek 510LC / Xtremegear Liquid Cooling system w/ 120mm Radiator (Asetek CPU Water Cooling ***Overclockable XXX***)
FLASHMEDIA: None
FLOPPY: NONE
FREEBIE_CS: None
FREEBIE_NVVC: None
FREEBIE_OS: None
GLASS3D: NONE
HDD: 1TB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16M Cache Hard Drive (Single Hard Drive)
HDD2: NONE
HOMEINSTALL: NONE
IEEE_CARD: NONE
KEYBOARD: NONE
MEMORY: 8GB (4x2GB) PC10666 DDR3/1333mhz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Value Select or Major Brand)
MODEM: NONE
MONITOR: NONE
MONITOR2: NONE
MONITOR3: NONE
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3 AMD 760G (780L) Chipset DDR3 Socket AM3+ Micro-ATX w/ 7.1 Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-III, 1 PCIe X16, 1 PCIe X1, & 2 PCI
MOUSE: NONE
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OS: Microsoft® Windows® 7 Home Premium (64-bit Edition)
OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
POWERSUPPLY: 700 Watts Power Supplies (Cyberpower 700watt Gaming Power Supply (No Overclocking recommended))
RUSH: NONE
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
SPEAKERS: NONE
TEMP: NONE
UPS: None
USB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
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VIDEO: AMD Radeon HD 6850 1GB GDDR5 16X PCIe Video Card , Eyefinity 3 capable (Major Brand Powered by AMD)
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Quote Cyber_Tech Replybullet Posted: 15/Apr/2012 at 12:16
Normally I'd expect it to be the other way around, I have no problem running Amnesia at 1080p with everything cranked up but BF3 takes careful tuning to get the most out of it.

With your system I'd suspect overheating VRMs. Used HWMonitor to check CPU power consumption and the Motherboard CPU Temperature during a game that lags.

Also remove the HDD cage to improve airflow if you have a front fan and add a side fan if you don't already have one.

Try setting your CPU voltage to 1.25V in BIOS.



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Quote Lee_190 Replybullet Posted: 15/Apr/2012 at 12:26
That's what bothers me,I should be able to play these games with no problem yet my system seems to be struggling,how do I go about changing the voltage? also are there any specific case fans you could recommend to maximise the airflow? thanks.
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Quote Cyber_Tech Replybullet Posted: 15/Apr/2012 at 12:42
On start up press delete to get into BIOS , CPU voltage will be in AI Tweaker.

Scythe make good fans.

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Quote Lee_190 Replybullet Posted: 15/Apr/2012 at 13:18
Still no improvement after the voltage change,Will install some case fans see if that fixes the problem. Is there any chance it's the hdd? on the windows experience it gets a rating of 5.9 whilst pretty much everything else is a 7.9.
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Quote Lee_190 Replybullet Posted: 15/Apr/2012 at 14:29
I used HWMonitor during 5 mins of skyrim gameplay, temps-
motherboard:37c Min/49c Max
cpu: Min 16c/40c Max
gpu: Min 29c/56c Max

Are these bad temp readings?
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Quote Cyber_Tech Replybullet Posted: 15/Apr/2012 at 14:31
5.9 is standard for an HDD. You need a fast SATA III SSD to get 7.9.
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Quote Cyber_Tech Replybullet Posted: 15/Apr/2012 at 14:50
Those temps are fine.

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Quote Lee_190 Replybullet Posted: 15/Apr/2012 at 14:55
Does this rule out the overheating VRMs then? Wish I could just find the solution to the problem :/
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Quote Cyber_Tech Replybullet Posted: 15/Apr/2012 at 15:21
Probably, it might be worth getting the latest Catalyst Application Profiles.

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Quote Lee_190 Replybullet Posted: 15/Apr/2012 at 15:48
downloaded all the application profiles still no change,thanks for your help,hopefully find a solution soon.
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Quote Cyber_Tech Replybullet Posted: 15/Apr/2012 at 22:00
Can you post a screen shot or link to a 3DMark11 P score?

Also is BF3 running on Auto settings?

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Quote Lee_190 Replybullet Posted: 16/Apr/2012 at 17:59
http://3dmark.com/3dm11/3208923;jsessionid=pp7cwdz111rv240jd8ok5uj8

I've noticed on there that my gpu ain't showing the correct clocks,In catalyst centre its down as 1000mhz and 1200mhz unless its in idle.
Also is it just a coincidence its just the games through steam that I'm finding problems with?
BF3 is set to auto settings yes.
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Quote Cyber_Tech Replybullet Posted: 16/Apr/2012 at 18:35
Your 3DMark11 score seems in the right range.

BF3 on Auto settings works OK so can you post screenshots of the settings it picked and the settings you use in Amnesia?

Could be a Steam problem. What happens if you launch the game from Steam then use task manager to close Steam does it speed up?

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Quote Lee_190 Replybullet Posted: 16/Apr/2012 at 19:07
Amnesia settings

BF3 settings

I tried using task manager to close steam,It does seem to speed up but it still seems like I'm loosing fps somewhere.
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Quote Cyber_Tech Replybullet Posted: 16/Apr/2012 at 21:05
Do you run Fraps to monitor FPS?

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Quote Lee_190 Replybullet Posted: 16/Apr/2012 at 21:14
Yes,But it is noticeable without fraps to monitor the fps the game stutters. I went to the extreme of a fresh install of steam as it used to be fine,So far it seems to have fixed the issue's in amnesia,but this is just at a 5 min glance. Any Idea's how steam could affect the performance if it was steam that was causing issue's?
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Quote Cyber_Tech Replybullet Posted: 16/Apr/2012 at 21:42
Not really.

I'd only call it low if you are struggling to maintain 40+ FPS with those settings. Only real suggestion is to turn down Anisotropy (I can only tell the difference between 4x and 8x on a 50" 1080p screen) so 16x is overkill and SSAO as this may depend on the CPU not the GPU.

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Quote Lee_190 Replybullet Posted: 17/Apr/2012 at 18:23
Problem seems to be solved now,Looks like a bad driver,I reinstalled my gpu drivers and everything is fine now, consistent fps. Thanks for all your help.
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Quote Cyber_Tech Replybullet Posted: 17/Apr/2012 at 20:38
That's great, my faith in the 7870 was beginning to waver.

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